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Fauci says he can’t give a ‘really firm answer’ on why Americans with natural immunity need to receive the vaccine

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Dr. Anthony Fauci, the White House’s lead adviser for the COVID-19 pandemic, told CNN on Thursday that he can’t give “a really firm answer” on the credibility of a study that depicts natural immunity willl give stronger protection against the virus than vaccines alone.

While on an interview on “Anderson Cooper 360,” CNN chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta questioned Fauci about a study done in Israel that shows natural immunity from a prior COVID-19 infection showed longer-lasting protection against the Delta variant of coronavirus than two shots of the Pfizer vaccine.

“So, as we talk about vaccine mandates, I get calls all the time, people say, I’ve already had COVID, I’m protected. And now the study says maybe even more protected than the vaccine alone. Should they also get the vaccine? How do you make the case to them?” Gupta asked.

“You know, that’s a really good point, Sanjay. I don’t have a really firm answer for you on that,” Fauci replied.

“That’s something that we’re going to have to discuss regarding the durability of the response,” he continued. “The one thing that paper from Israel didn’t tell you is whether or not — as high as the protection is with natural infection — what’s the durability compared to the durability of a vaccine?”

Fauci said that it is possible that natural immunity from a prior COVID-19 infection only gives brief protection from viral infection.

“So, I think that is something that we need to sit down and discuss seriously, because you very appropriately pointed out, it is an issue, and there could be an argument for saying what you said,” Fauci said.

His response was misleading. The Israeli researchers particularly addressed the longevity of natural immunity compared to the vaccine immunity, writing that their study showed “natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant” than the two-dose Pfizer vaccine.

Formerly, Fauci was confident that the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna give stronger immune protection against all variants of COVID-19 than natural immunity.

“Vaccines, actually, at least with regard to SARS-CoV-2 [the coronavirus] can do better than nature,” Fauci said in May during a White House COVID-19 briefing. “Vaccination in people previously infected significantly boosts the immune response.”

At the time, Fauci brought up two peer-reviewed studies that supported his views.

Health experts have said that while natural immunity is good for people, it is not a good strategy for handling a pandemic because it is different from person to person depending on a few factors like age, health, and the strength of a person’s immune system.

“What we’re learning is that the immunity that is generated for many people after recovering from COVID-19 is stronger than we thought. And that’s great news,” said Dr. Brandon Webb, an infectious diseases physician with Intermountain Healthcare who spoke to KTVX-TV about the Israeli study.

“That natural immunity, it does appear to be stronger than the immunity that the vaccines are able to elicit in patients who have never had COVID,” Dr. Webb explained. But, he added, relying on natural immunity to offer widespread protection against COVID-19 is a “non-viable strategy.”

Webb brought up that the Israeli study found that “patients who have natural immunity and are then vaccinated are in the best possible situation.”

President Biden on Thursday declared a broad executive order that will force private companies with more than a hundred employees to require their workers to get the vaccine or have a COVID-19 test done regularly. Any employer who does not comply with the order will be subject to fines as high as $14,000 per violation, White House officials said earlier in the week.

While Biden’s vaccine mandate does not bring up natural protection at all, some employers have taken steps to consider natural immunity exceptions to their vaccine requirements. A hospital system in western Michigan, Spectrum Health, for example, will give brief exemptions from its employee vaccine requirements to anyone who has a positive PCR or antigen test for COVID-19 plus a positive antibody test from within the past few months, the Detroit News reported.

Fauci told CNN he completely supports the president’s order and said that were he in charge, he would would took it steps farther than Biden by getting rid of the testing option for workers.

“Myself, I would make it just vaccinate or not. But he was trying to be moderate in what his pronouncement was,” he added.

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Survey shows majority of Americans reject Build Back Better: More think Biden’s infrastructure spending bill will hurt them more than help them

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In a total inversion of what Democrats had expected, Americans have dismissed the expensive framework bill with gigantic social projects incorporated into it. Another survey shows that more Americans repel the Democrats’ $1.75 trillion spending proposition than welcome it.

As indicated by another ABC News/Ipsos survey delivered on Sunday, public help for President Joe Biden’s bills to expand spending on framework and social projects has blurred.

The overview tracked down that 32% of Americans feel that the spending bills would hurt individuals like them if they became law, while 25% said they accept the bills would help them. Close to 66% (64%) of Republicans figure the bills would hurt individuals like them, and 29% of free thinkers feel something very similar. In spite of being the significant system of Biden’s administration, less than half of Democrats (47%) accept the two bills would help them.

A CBS News survey from recently tracked down that 36% of respondents said it would help them and their family versus 33% who said it would hurt their friends and family. The overview additionally said that 79% of review members said that expansion was brought about by supply and assembling issues after the pandemic and 66% said it was brought about by U.S. government strategy. “And when asked about potential causes of inflation right now, two-thirds cited U.S. government policy,” the outlet stated.

The poll showed that just 37% of Americans thought that Biden and the Democrats were centered around issues they care very much about.

This sad survey for Biden and the Democrats shows up on that very days as a NBC News review that shows the president at unsurpassed lows. The NBC News surveys found that Biden was submerged interestingly of his administration – 42% endorsement rating versus 54% who object.

The survey likewise showed that 71% said the nation is “off on the wrong track” – including 48% of Democrats.

“When you see a wrong track of 71%, it is a flashing red light,” Republican pollster Bill McInturff of Public Opinion Strategies said. “These folks are telling us that this is not going well.”

That is a huge increment from one more survey in September that said 61% of Americans felt like the country has “pretty seriously gotten off on the wrong track.”

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President Biden says the Pope advised him to continue to take communion and considered him a ‘good Catholic’

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President Joe Biden said that Pope Francis let him know he was a “good Catholic” and said he could keep on taking communion regardless of the complaints of numerous U.S. bishops.

Biden made the case after a private gathering with the pontiff at the Vatican on Friday.

“We just talked about the fact he was happy that I was a good Catholic and I should keep receiving Communion,” Biden said about the gathering.

He added that the topic of abortion didn’t come up in the gathering.

An assertion from the White House showed that Biden said thanks to the Pope for pushing for an “equitable global economic recovery” and for battling global warming.

“Biden thanked His Holiness for his advocacy for the world’s poor and those suffering from hunger, conflict, and persecution,” the assertion added.

The Vatican didn’t affirm Biden’s case in their official statement about their gathering.

Biden’s claim will probably disappoint and outrage many conservative Catholics in the U.S. who have called for communion to be declined to politicians who stand behind abortion, which is in opposition to Catholic church teaching.

The issue will be taken up by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops following upon a vote during their June plenary meeting to address it generally. After Biden met with the Pope, they delivered an assertion saying that they would not single out a particular legislator if they vote to say something about the issue.

The Pope had recently reacted to the contention by approaching the diocesans to try not to politicize the congregation’s most elevated holy observance, which would transform it into a “source of discord rather than unity within the episcopate and the larger church in the United States.”

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Gold Star father tears into Biden over supposed arrangement to give large installments to illegal migrant families

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Gold Star father David Horton slammed President Joe Biden in a meeting Sunday, scrutinizing the Biden organization’s accounted for plan to convey huge financial installments to some migrant families.

The Wall Street Journal announced last week about the arrangement to pay migrant families affected by previous President Donald Trump’s zero-tolerance illegal immigration policies.

The Biden administration is in talks to offer immigrant families that were separated during the Trump administration around $450,000 a person in compensation, according to people familiar with the matter, as several agencies work to resolve lawsuits filed on behalf of parents and children who say the government subjected them to lasting psychological trauma.

The U.S. Departments of Justice, Homeland Security, and Health and Human Services are considering payments that could amount to close to $1 million a family, though the final numbers could shift, the people familiar with the matter said. Most of the families that crossed the border illegally from Mexico to seek asylum in the U.S. included one parent and one child, the people said. Many families would likely get smaller payouts, depending on their circumstances, the people said.

Among the issues pundits have raised with the arrangement, the greatest is that non-citizens remain to get additional cash from the U.S. government than gold star families if the arrangement becomes reality.

As of now, the U.S. government pays the group of fallen assistance individuals $100,000 in “death gratuity”; the installments are tax excluded. The families of service members additionally have the choice to gather a limit of $400,000 in extra security, however administration individuals need to pay into the protection intend to accept its advantages.

Speaking on “Fox and Friends,” Horton — whose son, Army Spc. Christopher Horton, was killed in Afghanistan in 2011 — proclaimed the Biden administration’s arrangement “an insult” and clarified it disrespects military families.

“I think it’s another — yet another insult … against our military families and Gold Star families and veterans’ families,” Horton said. “It’s just another another slap in the face. It’s completely disrespectful.”

“To compare an illegal person who has broken our country’s border laws … they’ve broken the law coming in on our borders and to compare that with someone, a patriot like my son, who gave his all on the battlefield of Afghanistan, and to just say, ‘Oh well, the value is more for someone who has broken our laws’ … and now to say, ‘Oh, we owe you money — and it’s more money than we would pay a patriot — I am outraged,” Horton said.

“You just wonder, where is the outcry against some of these policies that are just there? Unbelievable to me,” Horton added.

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